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The second (and best) half of our first panel discussion on Brian Hales’ false claims and opaque “transparency.” We discuss Brian’s oft repeated claim that no leader (or “keyholder” LOL) ever said why God “commanded” polygamy.
There is an embarrassment of riches when choosing quotes to expose just how seriously false this claim is. It was amazing to see what we each came up with. Good stuff in this one!
I’m hoping Brian and others will take notice that lies will not stand. We take these and all other scriptures seriously:
“Therefore, that we should waste and wear out our lives in bringing to light all the hidden things of darkness, wherein we know them; and they are truly manifest from heaven—
These should then be attended to with great earnestness.
Let no man count them as small things; for there is much which lieth in futurity, pertaining to the saints, which depends upon these things.” (D&C 123:13-15)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/123?lang=eng
Links:
Orson Pratt, The Seer: https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/2719f45e-8475-4fc4-823a-ab193aefa084/0/136
Brigham Young, July 14, 1855: Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, pp. 264-268
https://jod.mrm.org/3/264
Erastus Snow October 4, 1857: Journal of Discourses, Volume 5, pp. 285-292
https://jod.mrm.org/5/285
Heber C. Kimball Feb 1 1857 : Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, pp. 207-213
https://jod.mrm.org/4/207
Brigham Young, July 6, 1862: Journal of Discourses, Vol. 9, pg. 322
https://jod.mrm.org/9/318
Brigham Young, August 9 1868: Journal of Discourses, Vol. 12, pg. 261
https://jod.mrm.org/12/255
John Taylor 1883: Journal of Discourses, Vol. 24, pg. 229
https://jod.mrm.org/24/227
John Taylor Revelation Sept 27, 1886: Brian Hales paper, https://mormonpolygamydocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/1886-Revelation-article.pdf
Joseph F. Smith, July 7, 1878: Journal of Discourses, vol. 20, pg. 28
https://jod.mrm.org/20/24
George Q. Cannon November 16, 1884: Journal of Discourses, vol. 25, pp. 360-371
https://jod.mrm.org/25/360
Brigham Young, August 19, 1866: Journal of Discourses, Vol. 11 pg. 268
https://jod.mrm.org/11/266
December 19, 1891 Petition for amnesty
https://digitalcommons.law.ou.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=7160&context=indianserialset
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
2:30 Polygamy damages marriages
10:05 Brian Hales: We don’t know why God commanded polygamy
20:15 Orson Pratt’s reasons for polygamy
25:10 Prostitution or polygamy?
42:45 Brigham Young’s reasons for polygamy
50:00 Polygamy required for exaltation?
59:50 Erastus Snow: a woman’s lord is her husband?
1:02:20 Heber C. Kimball: thousands of wives!
1:03:50 Brigham Young: monogamy is no part of heaven
1:09:30 Brigham Young: polygamy for moral salvation of world
1:11:15 Joseph F. Smith: polygamy essential for highest blessings
1:16:00 George Q. Cannon: few righteous men, so we need polygamy?
1:18:00 Bloodlines
1:19:29 Q12, John Taylor: polygamy necessary to salvation
1:32:51 Brian Hales’ narrative destroys faith
1:34:25 Final thoughts
